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Sun 8:50am 17-06-2001

I've decided after good example to write some diary pages with toughts and events.

Oh, in case anybody fails to understand, I'd like to remind them that these pages are copyrighted, and that everything found here may not be redistributed in any other way then over this direct link without my prior consent. That includes family, christianity, and other cheats. The simple reason is that it may well be that some people have been ill informed because they've spread illegal 'copies' of my materials even with modifications. Apart from my moral judgement, that is illegal, and will be treated as such by me. Make as many references to these pages as you like, make hardcopies, but only of the whole page, including the html-references, and without changing a iota or tittel...

And if not? I won't hesitate to use legal means to correct wrong that may be done otherwise. And I am serious. I usually am. I'm not sure I could get 'attempt to grave emotional assault' out of it, but infrigement on copyright rules is serious enough. And Jesus called upon us to respect the authorities of state, so christians would of course never do such a thing. Lying, imagine that.

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Sun 8:51am 17-06-2001

Short scribble first, donno about the rest yet.


I've been into bible translation again, even into hebrew. Sounds like 'Father I have sinned'.., which is not that true, in normal human language I don't think I have much.

Isaia. There are english and american words that sound good. The other day I saw an add on a little a5 or maybe a4 asking for native german speakers. Size matters, though I may miss some real big posters, and as it says in a add for adds 'small matters' (too), indicating going to a copyshop and having a 100 a$ or 5 with some color and a good enough text or picture, and spreading them around can be quite effective to get some message accross. I'm not sure how legal it is to just glue them on every other lamppost.

"The world is coming to an end." "Convert !" "We're all gonna die" "God loves you".

Then what?, maybe another with a commercial text (stricktly not permitted I think on tripod), 20 per a4 times a hundred, I think 1000's a day could be reached.

Isaia. "But still I fear and still I dare not listen to the wise man" (prophets' song, a night at the opera, Queen). Pronouncing the name is not completely unlike an accent test like there is scheveningen in dutch, though a more subtle one. I've been into english enough to like to sort of think about such things, when I saw the german add, which was asking for a native speaker in german, I realized that even though I've been personally communicating in german which was sort of without thinking much, I'd be quite lost doing even a serious report in german with some probability of being not distinguishable from indeed native writers. The words, the genders, the tenses, horrible. In english I dare try, but the 'dodgem' is a good example of why I'd still not go for spy positions, I may need some time there to fill in some voids that are there and would be noticable, at least by me. When I saw the German add, I look again to get the words, I almost wondered wether I wouldn't prefer to write french, though that, too, is very daring in my opinion.

In some ways luckily I've spoken and listened to english people regularly, also native ones, which is different. Lately only I've been into thinking about american language as containing words and clues that are not subtle to them but probably completely or almost not captured abroad. Army language, that works. Strong language, marching rythm, napalm, that sort of stuff, that is clearer than most things in the world, probably. Enhlish would fail miserably for any foreigner, I'm affraid, but those what are they called, army marching rhymes work. Missis Roberson, that is maybe clear enough, some names work, others don't, I saw a film yesterday with for instance the phrase 'mental scars' that is american. English is probably harder, though getting the actual communication right not necessarily, I'm inclined to think. At least those languages I don't feel all too lost in. Thats a dutch ordering, I'm not sure how to decompose the sentence, though that may be good practice, and though I promised I'd present some. I did look up a state transition diagram this week, and a few books on automated language processing, for decomposition of natural language by computers. "You say coke, I say cane, hot dog, john wayne, please don't touch, I say Jesus, I don't want to be a peter pan, frankenstein or superman, all I want to do is... bicycle, biclycle, I want to ride my bicycle, I want to ride my mike, ..." (queen, obviously, biclycle race, "Jazz"). "Woman sweet woman, sweet cause in vain. You make love, you break love, its all the same. Music, sweet music..." (Hendrix, "manic depression"). Few weeks ago I read some Jimmi Hendrix poems, in a book with also interview fragments together with eric clapton and others, which are absolutely unbeatable, I think.

Isaia. 61:1 in this case. About an anointed one setting captives free, it says is in most translations. The same verse appears in Luke 4, cited by Jesus, written down by the physician I think it was, Luke. Understandable quote, the son of God making himself known to his suroundings for who He is in Gods plan, and what is going to be or already like, claiming an ancient prophecy for Himself, and a position all knew was available but as yet unfullfilled at the time.

What is the logic of unity in for instance this Luke chapter? Simply a written account of the story of Jesus coming to earth, making Gods will known, performing miracles, and being the promised redeemer of the Jews and the world? There are such phrases to describe the character of the gospels, I'd remember when I try, except I wouldn't know which one goes with wich gospel anymore.

But in all seriousness, I'd rather try to get to some of the essence of the buildup of most letters than the very heart of the new testament, the gospels. I've heard and though about even Hebrews, and it made sense enough in at least a few ways, but the logic in the gospels, apart from the obvious mainly chronological ordering of events is not at all clear enough to me. Not so much the essence of the message of good news, that the son of God came to earth to 'solve' te problem of sin and save many people, and teach about the coming kingdom which was promised to the jews, and some of the rules and ideas that are presented are clear enough. Though already there there are questions enough raised by the sermon on the mount alone. One would need to know at least about the difference between the predicted earthly and heavenly kindom, that is the current in between period of 'grace' which is not the same as Israel as the promised head of nations when Jesus has returned. But then still, lots of comparisons and short stories tend to raise more questions then they answer, except maybe for very unedified or maledified persons.

It's quite maintainable that as they stand, the questions many of the comparisons raise are deliberately raised to make people think, and most probably to correct errors as the world system probably still holds in many ways. The order and unity of the gospels then simply lies in the remarkable enough claim of telling the life story of the alledged son of God at least changing the landscape of religeon forever and thoroughly, maybe some customary story telling lines, and chronology. Unless they speak about the essence of what was wrong with the whole of life, and not detached from the languages and images people used in the those days, and considering the high claim, which after milennea and scientific (r)evolutions still isn't even laughed at, it is not unlikely that the well edified enough son of God drags in the same as the prophets and kings before Him, which is the whole of relevant history and human thinking. Then it is not without reason to look for more profound teaching to be present in the four written accounts of the man that challenged and won and was killed in that small people's roman province that apearently raised enough attention, probably by their religion and customs, and in the end became probably even more effective in influencing the roman empire than the greek and their literature have been.

Asterix and the bureaucracy ?

I just thought about the dutch expression "ter aarde bestellen", which is strange. Would "luctor et emergo", a dutch adagium be representative for the overestimating idea of wrestling with the world and ending on top, an idea that is made into reality by its society, or simply an obervation with a hope?

I've been inquiring about getting a new pasport, which is sort of hard without an ID to start with. The old place I lived reported they have a (old) drivers' licence I can come and pick up when I have an id, which i need in the first place... Chickens and eggs.

I've felt prompted to at times create a little sort of fun by mimicing 'aanspreekzinnen', opening sentences (sentences?!) for a converstation. One enters a room and says 'good morning' or 'hhii' or one walks up to someone and tries 'say! eh..'. Or a show starts 'good evening, ladies and gentlemen'.

Ever since the 'he's crazy' approach I think will largely realy fail completely, it at times seems to feel appropriate to either be a bit deliberately juvenile and test for responses, or just in general test what people respond like to spiritual and communicative exitations. Some of the results are staggering.

I luckily was able to get a haircut last week, so I quite well resemble my homepage picture again, but I don't think it matters much to be aware that quite some people I pass or or some reason get near seem to know about my existence, or think they do, or feel the need at least to make clear there is some kind of recognizing present. For some that is for obvious enough reasons, for others it is not necessarily clear why that might be so, certainly not in person, maybe in spirit, maybe trhough gossiping circuits which I mostly seem to feed rather then retrieve information from. So that's a bit of a game, which in some ways is completely serious, since the country I'm in is small, and the upper, middle and lower classes may find it quite hard to be not forced to run into just about every party there is at some point, 15 million people is not that many, the lets say leading or opiniating elite of such an amount is quite overseeable when needed, and taking murphy as a starting point, that is most likely used by some and made into some kind of unity.

more later